Comment from: GMW [Visitor] · http://www.motioncity.com
Nice job Mike.

What kills me is that this guy would put so much energy into a bogus film festival. I mean the entry fee was $20, right? How many people do you think he's scammed? Even at 100, we are talking a couple grand. Seems to me it would make more sense to actually run a legitimate festival.

Has he even offered to refund the entry fee yet?
02/16/07 @ 11:29
Comment from: bruno chatelin [Visitor] · http://www.filmfestivals.com
VEry surprised to to read the above!

What makes you think you can reproduce my correspondance (to you or to Dave) without asking my permission.
Have you seen this anywhere on the web on a decent website?

You are giving a biased trashy version of facts truncatting correspondance, bragging about your politeness or Dave's polite tone...

So elegant from you to criticise my usage of english? just try writing to me in french and make me laugh . ooops please don't; no time for that.

When I was a film distributor (managing director for Fox and Columbia TriStar theatrical in France) my Los Angeles execs never complained or laughed at my french maybe your standards are different.

My english was bad and not "spell checked" because I have been agressed and felt insulted by Dave's tone in his first line to me: WHY DID'NT YOU PUBLISH HIS EMAIL TO ME (editor) IT STARTED LIKE THAT


"My last email to you bounced back and I am wondering if your whole
site is in question.

I believe you may be supporting scam film festivals site..." Not even hello, or whatever...Still in search of a response from filmfestivals.com to see if you
should be included in the Blog Worlds' search for film festival
scammers and their supportive festival sites."
THIS IS WHAT YOU DESCRIBE AS POLITE I quote you (may I?)
"He wrote politely, as a concerned filmmaker."
So our site is fake and we support scam! thank you

If Dave wants my attention then tell him to start by beeing polite enough.

He complained, and you did too, that emails did not reach the festival: I took some time to check that, and got the festival director to answer directly with you.

02/21/07 @ 17:46
Comment from: Momo [Visitor]
Well if this film festival is a scam then that's really sad cause I've paid for 4 of them. I've sent my movie to those guys and won 3 awards and an official selection.

Official selection: New York short film f.
LA short Film.F.(winner)
Strasbourg F.F.(winner) I've got a diploma written in french. if this fest doesn't exist then who wrote it? SOme "french guy"?.
Philadelphia Docu and fiction fest.(winner)

The awards(the official selction and the strasbourg f.f.) were just diplomas that I printed off my computer, nothing fancy.

I'm still waiting on my other "diplomas or certificates" It's been almost a year since i've won the festivals and only got two diplomas out of 4.

I've written several emails to them and never got a single answer.

My movie is now on IMDB.com, I tried to update the awards I've won from the APWF but the administrators from IMDB told me that the festivals can't be loaded into my page because they're not legit although very similar to other festivals.

IMDB is going to fix this and maybe delete all the fake festivals that have something to do with APWF. Sorry folks!


I personally wont be submmiting more videos to this website.I will spread the news to my fellow filmmakers. Thanks to IMDB and to the honest people behind this "scam" study.


02/21/07 @ 18:46
Comment from: Mike Boas [Member] Email · maddogmovies.com
Momo, I'd like to hear more about your experience. (I'll send you an email, too.)

1) Did the APWF inform you by email or phone that you had won something?

2) When they emailed you certificates to print out, what did they say?

3) Did information about you and your film(s) appear on their website?

4) I've noticed that IMDB does have some listings for APWF events. Too bad those listings are "good" while your references to them are "bad"!
02/21/07 @ 19:03
Comment from: Mike Boas [Member] Email · maddogmovies.com
Bruno,

I'm glad you're taking an interest in my research.

My purpose in reproducing our correspondence is to expose the possible fraud of Annual Program Without Frontiers. If you have anything to say in their defense or in defense of your website, I'd gladly repost that here.

It's interesting that your letter of complaint focuses on my supposed insult to your nationality and my degree of politeness, while ignoring the other issues I have with your attitude and website.

For the record, I was not laughing at your French. I was making the point that my problem interpreting the tone of your emails may have been because of a language barrier.

Maybe I should ask you straight out:

1) When you referred to a "phony subject," were you dismissing Dave's concerns as phony?

2) When you said "It feels like we needed that," did you mean "thanks for pointing out a possible scam" or were you being sarcastic?

3) When you told Dave "Nothing I can do more," why did you not express concern at supporting a possible scam?

Did I jump the gun posting this blog? I don't think so. The facts as I understand them are as follows.

A) Interpol investigated Annual Program Without Frontiers for fraud.

B) Filmfestivals.com supports APWF by carrying their listings and promoting them on its bulletin page.

I am eager to hear from other filmmakers and festival reps on this subject. I'd like to get to the truth and share it with the community.
02/21/07 @ 19:30
Comment from: Padre [Visitor]
Hi

Here is another proud award winner. I can very much share the suspicions raised here in this blog. The way the "Annual Program Without Frontiers" is being operated is very obscure. There is no information what so ever to be found anywhere on how the festival works. As an award winner I would be very interested in knowing who actually gave me this award, who was the jury, how many films were selected etc.
If this is not a scam I would urgently advise Mr Carlos Martinez to make this event more transparent.
As far as the first comment by GMW is concerned: I am sure that far more than 100 people paid their 20$, I would estimate at least a 100 a year per event (especially shorts, there are millions of them). That would be 100x8x20=16.000 $ (there is also the FESTIVAL DE CINE INTERNACIONAL DE BARCELONA now). If it is a scam it would certainly help paying the festival director's rent.

I also love your warning about the NYIIFV. They tried to urge me once on the phone to hand out my credit card details within 24 hours so they can book 300$ admission fee from it. Luckily your site saved me from being ripped off. Thanks :-)

*There is a lot of people out there trying to rip off desperate filmmakers. Take care.*
03/13/07 @ 10:44
Comment from: Mike Boas [Member] Email · maddogmovies.com
"If this is not a scam I would urgently advise Mr Carlos Martinez to make this event more transparent."

My thoughts exactly. If they're on the up and up, they should explain fully how the festivals work.

Thanks for the comments. I'm glad I could help.
03/13/07 @ 14:45
Comment from: Padre [Visitor]
"There is a mention of the Mar del Plata International Film Festival, the only established festival. Do they know APWF is using their name?"

If you have a look at the Mar del Plata International Film Festival site you can actually find a section for the Annual Program Without Frontiers. http://www.mardelplatafilmfest.com/22/programacion_secciones_la_mirada_interior_anual_sin_fronteras_intro_e.php?id=6
And they do screen a selection of six films. So this surly means that the Mar del Plata fest knows about APWF. And it does give some credit to Mr Martinez.

So I repeat that if Mr Martinez wants to rid himself from suspicions like those raised here he should really be more generous with information about himself and the inner workings of the APWF. How about maintaining a blog that keeps people up to date on the progress of the single festivals. Also a more informative web site that can actually be navigated without using Google would help.

This would really be in everybody's interest. Filmmakers would be happy to live without the suspicion to have some bogus awards on their CV and being able to use those credits on ImDB. And it would help the APWF to gain reputation and momentum.
03/14/07 @ 00:47
Comment from: Laurent Notaro [Visitor] Email
Hi Mike,
Thank you very much for your investigation and publication, long time I was looking for infos about the APWF and the NY indy fake fest. In fact I won the Director Award at the Golden Gate bla bla fest 2004 and I always had a strange feeling while adding this to my CV: Nobody I know ever heard about it and the mamut address looks so obscure... I received a diploma after 1 year and some e-mails asking about the result. I have to say that the diploma and the website look like made with the feet (French expression)...
Concerning the NY fake fest, I have had a telephone conversation with "Cindy" who told me that they would give a refund if my film was not selected, then I wrote an e-mail to ask about the publication of the program, the answer was: YOUR FILM IS SELECTED :-), I looked at the website and search for my film: Nothing... I called "Cindy" again, but no answer... I wrote an e-mail and ask for the program again, but it was rejected as they tag me as spam...
After 3 years the wound is closed (I lost 300$) and I laugh a lot with my friends about the diploma. Sorry for my English, I speak French... If you need help to write a polite letter in French do not hesitate to contact me.
05/12/07 @ 16:29
Comment from: Antoine Manceaux [Visitor] Email · http://www.youtube.com/ant1man
Hello,

Interesting to find this whole article... I've been wondering for a while what I had signed into by submitting my short film to several festivals represented by APWF...
I actually WON a Screenplay award, but I found this out one day on Google by complete coincidence... They had not notified me of such award on my name, and I never received anything at all. I tried sending e-mails to ask a little more about it... No replies ever...

I suspect the awards to be randomly given, i wish not, but if they are legit, they really have to work on they're communication and graphic website design...

The only thing that really works is the Credit Card money sucking page...

I wish one day to know the truth about these guys and about my "award"...
07/17/07 @ 13:43
Comment from: SM [Visitor]
Hi there, I found APWF website though filmfestival.com which I assumed was a trusted site, and submitted to San Francisco and Barcelona.
I've just recieved today an email from APWF telling me my film has been preselected for the San Francisco Short Film Festival:in exactly the same wording as you printed on your blog. Naturally I was very excited an revisited the San Francisco International Festival of Short Films to see if I was listed in public screening programme, and to my puszzlement learned that it has just been held and my film wasn't programmed.
I then revisited the APWF site to try and understand the functioning of award and screening process, but found it's info extremely vague- and being a first-time self-funded filmmaker, intially put down my confusion down to my ignorance of the film festival system.I even tried to convince myself that perhaps awards are given the year preceeding the public screening in the Festival. THen I found your site...

It seems pretty clear it's a scam and I'm very angry that it should be so easy to prey on the myriad of impoverished new filmmakers who are willing to go the extra mile to get noticed.
I confess that I not only submitted to the Festival International de Cine de Barcelona (APWF) but also the the NYIV Film Fest - which I learned too late, has itself got a pretty ropey reputation amongst filmmakers. So, having been selected, I declined their request to send a screener and be listed in their programme - So in the end, I lost that money too. I'd rather decline such dubious accolades and have my film screened only in reputable festivals: I'm not that desperate!
In the meantime, what are the results of Interpol investigation? I'm fine to add my own testimonial to their evidence. Bogus organisations, and websites complicit with promoting them should be banned and fined.
I shall now write to Martinez and ask for explanations and a refund.
08/17/08 @ 07:24
Comment from: Mike Boas [Member] Email · maddogmovies.com
Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately, quite a few people have contacted me with similar stories, although yours is the first in many months.

I didn't personally contact Interpol, and the only reference I've found to that investigation was the article in Variety from 2003. I did email the writer, but never heard back. Now may be a good time to contact Variety and other media again -- you may want to do the same. Aside from Variety and the Hollywood Reporter, we could write to the Independent, Film Threat, Filmmaker Magazine, and others.

If you're looking for more reputable festivals, I recommend consulting withoutabox.com and their message boards. I never got anything but animosity from the head of filmfestivals.com, so I advise against using that site.

Best of luck with your endeavors!

-M
08/23/08 @ 03:50

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